You can begin flirting with him in places after that, such as immediately after the Med-Bay scene, or the Scenic View on the Citadel. You aren't able to progress the Romance for real however until you complete your first Mission World either Therum, Noveria or Feros. At this point, you have an extended conversation with him regarding how the other races view the galaxy, and his experience as one of the first human biotics.
At the end is where you start progressing the Romance; interestingly, all three options will do this, even "To some degree". After the second Mission World, Kaidan will talk some more about his time at "Brain Camp" and the mistakes he endured there at the hands of a Turian teacher named Vernus.
Towards the end, Kaidan makes allusions that Shepard is special to him. Pick "Special? While this doesn't affect the Romance in any way, Kaidan's tone at the end will be different if you're in a Romance with him. If you talk to Kaidan again, you'll have a more direct conversation about your blossoming relationship.
Towards the end of Virmire is where things get complicated. At a certain point you'll be asked to rescue either Ashley or Kaidan: one of them will be at an AA Tower, while the other will be at the makeshift bomb.
If you want to continue the Romance with Kaidan, you'll need to pick "Rescue Kaidan" so that he can live. After you complete all four Mission Worlds and return to the Citadel, the Normandy will be grounded, and Kaidan will appear to comfort Shepard while stuck on the ship. This is when your Romance with Kaidan will be Locked In, and it will happen unless you consistently pick Renegade options and be abrasive to him.
Once you have a Locked In Romance, then when you go to Ilos and start the one-way ticket to the end of the game, Kaidan will approach Shepard in their quarters. This is when you'll get the Romance Scene, unless you turn Kaidan away with Renegade choices. Liara is one the game's major complications when it comes to Romance.
Because her young soul is all to eager to learn more about Shepard, she'll make some unintended advances towards Shepard even if you're trying to Romance Kaidan. One Mission World after recruiting Liara, Kaidan will stumble into asking if you're interested in her or not. If you intend on romancing Kaidan, you should pick "It's not like that" to clarify that you're not interested in her. After that the conversation will resume as normal. If you've been making romantic advances with both Kaidan and Liara, then two Mission Worlds after recruiting Liara both she and Kaidan will approach you in the Comm Room about it.
You'll have three options here:. Due to Shepard working with Cerberus and Kaidan working for the Alliance, unfortunately the player will only have one face-to-face interaction with him in Mass Effect 2, which is the end of the Horizon Mission.
Interestingly, what you say to him in this scene has no bearing on the relationship. Shep a fair ending. I made you, I brought you back from the D ead x. Kodelyn Shepard for crqstalite. Super duper quick redraw of this old pic because someone resurrected it again after 3 years, and every day I am reminded of it, so I wanted to make it better to soothe my soul. You may now own property, join the army, and apply to serve under a battlemaster.
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It was understandable that she would feel apprehension. Otherwise, he just expresses his admiration for Shepard and his consideration of Shepard as a good friend, to which Shepard can say that Kaidan is their brother. Shepard and company embark on a mission to sabotage a geth dreadnought after receiving orders to enlist the quarians for the war.
If Tali is around, after the mission Kaidan good-naturedly refers to her as a good egg and says he is glad to have her back on the team. On second thoughts, however, Kaidan tells Shepard not to tell her he called her an egg, in case it's a quarian insult. If Shepard shuts down the geth servers on Rannoch by traveling into the geth consensus, Kaidan finds himself distracted on the mechanics of how such an interface could have worked.
Working on a Spectre division expense report at the time, he tries to restrain his curiosity, but ends up asking Shepard what happened anyway, and gets regaled with a brief summary of what transpired. He later opines that entering the consensus is going to be the best chapter in the Commander's autobiography. He doesn't seem to be able to compete with James, who plays poker regularly on the Citadel. If Shepard sided with the geth, Kaidan remarks that the quarians' extinction was tragic and that he had always admired their resilience.
If Tali survived until that fateful moment Kaidan says that he's sorry about Tali's death, remarks that she was "one of a kind", and he will miss her. He also says he'll never forgive the geth for Ashley and now Tali's deaths. If Tali died the previous year however, he wonders instead how history will remember the quarians.
If Shepard sided with the quarians, Kaidan will be glad that they are finally rid of the geth once and for all, stating that his experience with the synthetics mainly involved getting shot at.
If Shepard managed to unite the two races, however, he expresses his amazement at the negotiation Shepard pulled off, further stating that having both geth and the quarians on their side is a very good thing. After the the fall of Thessia , Kaidan is found on the Engineering Deck with Engineer Adams , talking sympathetically about Liara , who just lost her homeworld. They reminisce about her stories she shared with them back in and hope that she remains strong.
Kaidan also attempts to raise the Commander's dampened spirits by promising that Kai Leng will get his ass kicked next time. After dealing with Henry Lawson 's shenanigans on Horizon, Kaidan expresses his palpable anger through words, stating that the Illusive Man better say his prayers because now that the team knows where his base is they're coming after him.
If Kaidan was among the landing party he says he's never been more filled with rage after what he saw there. Illusive Man is obviously crazy in his opinion, and in cases like Sanctuary, Kaidan wouldn't mind killing crazy. After the mission to investigate Leviathan on Mahavid , Kaidan is disquieted at seeing the people on the asteroid trapped ten years in the past and wonders how many more people are trapped like that. During the Battle for Earth , Shepard can speak to Kaidan.
Kaidan reflects on his years of service as a soldier and thanks the Commander for being able to reach his present position as a veteran. He is disquieted at having to say his goodbyes to Shepard, to which Shepard can offer an opinion.
If Kaidan was left behind on Virmire , or killed during the Cerberus coup attempt, his name will appear on the memorial wall aboard the Normandy. If Kaidan is in the squad at the final push towards the conduit , he will be killed by Harbinger if Shepard failed to muster enough of the galaxy's forces for the fight. Kaidan's presence during Shepard's shore leave adventures and beyond is contingent on him not being dead or sent to Admiral Hackett after the failed Citadel coup.
If Kaidan is romanced, he will be the first one to come to Shepard's aid during the ambush in the Wards. Otherwise he will arrive at the apartment with the rest of the squad. After the conclusion of Shepard's clone fiasco, Kaidan can serve as back-up for the Commander during matches in the Armax Arsenal Arena. Shepard can also invite Kaidan up to their Personal Apartment. When he arrives, he insists on cooking a meal of "beef, bacon and beer, the food of [his] people" for Shepard, guzzling a bottle with his Commander before starting.
If Shepard and Kaidan are lovers, the couple ask each other about their culinary skills. Shepard can either claim a roommate at Arcturus Station taught them to cook or claim expertise given time to practice, and Kaidan reveals that he learned to cook during his training with Conatix.
Kaidan is distracted enough to burn the garlic on his recipe, and Shepard helpfully suggests hot sauce. After dinner the couple either can cuddle on the couch or go upstairs to "burn off" their calories. If Kaidan and Shepard's relationship is platonic, Shepard verbally trashes Kaidan's cooking, playfully wary of any "food poisoning". The Commander either "threatens" to put him on kitchen detail with Adams for a month, or emphasizes how the close calls they had over the years is apparently nothing compared to Kaidan's cooking.
Kaidan just shakes his head and responds with indignation. After the dinner Shepard can admit approval at the meal, in which case Kaidan conflates his kitchen skills with winning a fight with James , or continue bantering with Kaidan in a friendly manner, accusing each other of being too "sensitive.
Despite being on Shepard's team, Kaidan is an optional invite to the Commander's big party. During the first part of a loud party, he can be found with James and Steve. If Jack is present, Kaidan will remind her to keep her biotics under control. If she is not present, Kaidan will be the one to answer the question of what happens when a biotic gets drunk, saying it's just like everyone else except he glows blue when he does it. Steve will tease Kaidan about being a cheap date and asks about biotic party tricks, which Kaidan says are much more impressive when the audience is also drunk.
Kaidan can be found in the same place in the first stage of a quiet party, agreeing with Jack about not trusting Cerberus, and suggesting that the party get a bit crazier. If Wrex is present but Jack is not, he and Kaidan will reminisce about Ashley. During the second stage of an energetic party, he can be found with Liara and James in their argument about biotic versus physical superiority.
When James makes a jab about "flawed implants" Kaidan will shoot back with how hard he's worked and his resulting ability to Reave , to Liara and possibly Jacob's confusion.
If Shepard sides with physical superiority , Kaidan will be flabbergasted, prompting Shepard to comfort him by saying that Kaidan's kind of physical excellence is still Shepard's kind of physical excellence. Kaidan will eventually confirm for James that as a child he frequently threw things around with his biotics. During the second stage of a quiet party, he can be found with Joker and Samantha on the second floor. While they are discussing EDI, Kaidan will bring up the time her body almost killed him.
Later, Joker will ask the long burning question of how Kaidan gets his hair to stand up like that; it's static buildup from his implants. During the last stage of a loud party, Kaidan can still be found on the balcony.
If Shepard sided with biotics in the earlier argument, Kaidan will request a turn demonstrating biotic superiority on James.
If Shepard sided with physical ability previously, he will be winning against James in a pushup contest with Liara rooting for him. In both cases, that group will then start dancing afterward.
At first he will be arguing with EDI about the amount of curry that should be used, and ends up offending Samantha when asking her help to make his point. When the group discusses the team dynamics of a party, EDI rules out Kaidan as the mingling specialist due to an occasional tendency to be judgmental. If Shepard chose making drinks in the earlier argument, Kaidan and his group will be found at the bar instead, with Samantha serving as bartender.
Kaidan is nonplussed to learn that the frozen Pyjak Samantha gave him was comprised of the contents of her spill pad. During the photo, Kaidan will be next to Shepard if he is romanced, and in the middle row if he was not.
If Kaidan was romanced, he and Shepard will wake up in each other's arms the next morning. Regardless of relationship status, he can then be found in the kitchen saying what a great time he had and rapidly demanding coffee. If romanced, Kaidan will be the one to talk to Shepard while returning to the Normandy.
He'll tell Shepard that he trusts them to find a way to win and promises to be waiting. He calls everything they've been through the "greatest challenge of [his] life", as well as calling it "the greatest reward. A female Shepard who romanced Kaidan in has differing dialogue with him during the mission to Mars , where they discuss their relationship, and Kaidan's fears that she is no longer the woman he loved.
She can either be consoling or confrontational. While in the hospital, Kaidan will send a message to Shepard asking to meet with her. If Shepard romanced another person in , Kaidan will ask her about it, where she can either apologize, explain herself, or lie. Lying will make Kaidan angry and he will order her out of the room, although she has the chance to admit her lie and apologize.
If she apologizes or attempts to explain, Kaidan remarks that he still cares about her, and there is no other woman in his life. If Kaidan joins the crew after the Cerberus attack on the Citadel , Shepard can resume a romance with him, or start a new one if she did not do so before. He invites the Commander out for a drink at Apollo's Cafe, where he reminisces that he often had a few beers at his parents' home overlooking English Bay in Vancouver.
He'll reflect on their relationship, and wonders if they have a future together. He'll also forgive her for cheating on him. Shepard can pursue the relationship by telling him that she loves him. If Kaidan was not romanced in , either a male or female Shepard can start a new romance with him in They can do so by visiting him in the hospital, picking him up a bottle of whiskey from the Sirta Supplies store, and locking in the romance when Kaidan talks about how he never looked for a relationship before while at Apollo's Cafe.
Before the final battle, Kaidan will show up at Shepard's quarters offering "a quick drink". If playing a female Shepard who has rekindled a relationship with him, they will briefly discuss their first night together; otherwise, they will discuss the battle and their feelings before Kaidan admits that he didn't come for a quick drink.
During the final mission on Earth, Shepard can say their goodbyes to Kaidan. Kaidan will talk how he lived an amazing life thanks to Shepard and how hard he will fight so that he could hold Shepard again. If Kaidan is with Shepard in the final push to the Conduit, and if Shepard has mustered enough of the galaxy's forces , he will be badly injured by Harbinger 's beam and will be evacuated to the Normandy.
Shepard and Kaidan will profess their love for each other before Shepard goes to the Citadel beam.
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